^ Pft. Fine by me.


Now, that would be a really scary situation. I'm already agressive - what's going to happen when I send him to the hospital for saying 'NO' to my invitation?


Actually, that's pretty close to the mark. I think it'd be a brittle heart, though. Like old plastic - left out in the sun too long.
Hey, if my heart is going to be broken, I don't want my mistake to be the reason for it. >inevitable< Time to knock on wood!

plastic--a polymer ......the polymeric linkages do not weaken when left out in sun

^ Tell that to my Barbie dolls and see if they believe it.

They're dumb

^ Well that's understandable. They have no brain.

Nice answer, by the way. *chuckle* Would've expected it out of any little boy.

"Oooh! They're so fun to play with! Yea got no other task than colour their ha*r wooow "
Yeah i won't be able to be that!

Actually, my sister and I used to play with them and make up stories. Of course, there was always a villain or villain-ess or both. Good times.

Can't say I miss 'em, though. My Barbie always got the rotten end of the stick when it came to being a heroine. Bummer.

ANYHOW! Enough about childhood toys!

What!? what kind of barbies did you play with? I couldn't dye the hair of any of my dolls...

wait ! wait! read this-

Girls, how do you seperate good friends from someone that you mgiht want to be your boyfriend.


Is it looks? I just don't really understand how some girls say "We are just friends" Where is the barrier between something deeper?

Girls are confusing creautures...

Hey, Luthien. we should make a topic like this on my fourms, I wonder if it would be a big hit.

haha, fine.. But it would be cool to be able to dye the hair on your barbies though...

its like a boring task i guess requires a lot of patience and her head's so small .......wait why am i discussing this

Well, you don't have a crush on all the girls you know, right? It's the same with us, we aren't attracted to every guy we know, and the ones we think are nice but we wouldn't feel comfortable dating, is the ones we consider as good friends. And I would say that it really has nothing to do with looks, at all.

Oh my gosh, YOU'VE tried it!

*attracted ....


Imaaaaagination!

haha! oops, *edits* thanks

rofl.

Well, that explains a lot.

Spongebob stole your imagination.


Maybe, but it's a bit of a private forum at the moment. I'm not sure if everybody would be ok with opening up about crushing on other members...

Hmmm good question. I have quite a few guy friends whom I consider as my closer friends... they're brothers. I love them all very much but would never consider dating them, see?
I think the barrier would be physical attraction, yes. Not looks mind you, physical attraction can exist whether a person is conventionally good-looking or not. What sparks off that attraction, I wouldn't know, but I think it's because when you're drawn to a person it's in all aspects. Whereas for friends you just enjoy their company and care for them a lot.

I love that episode of Imaaaaaaagination (yea thats how he says)
They do so many things inside an empty box

Its all Imaaaaaaaagination


wrong conclusion as always

^ And yet you always allow me to jump to my own conclusion.

Consequently, no other makes more sense then mine. *chuckle*

Another wrong conclusion.......

^ Ever consider that you're the who's always coming to the wrong conclusion?

As far as I'm concerned, who cares?

who cares

Ehmmm..I care, please stop

New mod ?

haha,yeah, the special one for you two....

(stops because of cake)

and just to get back to topic ---yeah SP; girls are that confused actually

well, that could be very subjective....

well i agree with paaja and joanna.
I think it's personality and attraction to them and stuff like that. I have 2 guy friends and the one I view as just a friend, the other is just a friend too but i could see myself dating him. It has nothing to do with looks but more with the person he is. idk.

I'm curious, is it the same for you guys?

*toddles over*

*cling*


Very true. You could love to death a goofball with no sense of priorities, but would you really want to be attached to that sort of person any other way then through friendship? It's asking for a life of misery.

^yeah. and sometimes my one friend is just too much like me. It's great having him as a friend but it'd kinda be like dating myself. which would be weird.
I mean, I don't need another me I already have one!

^ Ugh. And just wait till he gets on your nerves - you won't have any snappy comebacks that he doesn't know.

back to the guys asking girls vs. girls asking guys out, these are basically 2 answers that everyone's fielded.

1. I don't feel comfortable with it.

Well, HELLO? Do you think guys are either?

2. Because guys do it traditionally.

Oh, i see. Why should guys have to ask girls out? Because guys should have to ask girls out.

I'll ask it again, why should guys have to always be the one to ask people out? Besides the answers above.

I guess i live in wierdville, because there has never been any unwritten law of who should ask who out.

Apparently you don't want any other answer then, 'Yes! I'm perfectly FINE with asking guys out!'

Maybe if the mood strikes me, I'd do it - but it would probably mean I'm mocking the guy because HE didn't have the guts to speak up. If a guy's not interested, never took the time to talk to me or bat an eye in my direction, he's not worth the effort.

And I'd like to mention that a girl doing that would look fairly desparate to me. I'm glad to be wrong.

Im gonna be honest, whether I come off as a jerk or not Im just gonna say how I feel about it, im not speaking for all guys or anything, especially since i have little relationship experience, Im just judging by how I think.

For me, no its not the same. I decide whether or not I like a girl, by a quick look over and like one conversation with them. Seriously the whole process takes like 10 seconds for me. That may come across as shallow, but thats just how I am. I have never had a friend who was a girl that I ever been friends with and then gradually began to like them like that. I have several close girlfriends. But my feelings toward them havent changed over the past like 10 years ive known them. I know whether Id date a girl after the first meeting with them.

To be truthful I dont understand how girls arent that way. Which is probably why Im so confused all the time when it comes to girls. In fact i think more girls should think like I do ha ha I think that might make things much easier for us guys But see at the same time the girl I like, only likes me as a friend and she really likes to hang out with me. But Im really hopeing she does what alot of you girls seem to do which is eventually start to like me that way, thats my only hope in my situation lol

i would definitely agree, bc when you like someone, their personality makes them much more attractive, no matter how they look.

^ It's a 'my beloved monster' thing. Possibly the most beautiful relationship, it even tops the 'lovely couple', though parents may not agree. Sometimes I think people would lead better relationships with blindfolds, but there's a downside to that as well. *sigh*


Hmmm. Well, I'm not sure if I'm the only girl here that sees every guy in my age range as worthy of a chance or two. I've got nothing to lose, have I? The looks are what catches your eye and eventually take hold of you, but the character is the only thing that's really going to last in every way. We have a way of looking into the future sometimes.

So it's fine to look, but it really hurts my feelings when I find out that a cute person is a creep just when I start to like my hypothetical image of him.

yup i know what you mean. But normally most girls im introduced to are through my good friends so that doesnt normally happen with me. But they're are big turnoffs for me like if she smokes or is a big drinker. Now Im not yelling at anyone who smokes or drinks, Im just saying that those really turn me off to a girl.

no. Rather i simply want a real reason to why girls won't apparently ask guys out.

And i've never known it to be different; in my school, all my life, there's never been the direct responsibility of one sex to ask the other out.

Rather, if a boy likes a girl, he asks her out. If a girl likes a boy, she asks him out.
And if a boy likes a boy and a girl likes a girl, everyone screams "Ewwwww!" and runs away.

So perhaps some of my questioning is coming from culture shock then. Maybe my town is wierd.


that's a good description. seriously, ladies, being a guy is so easy in the sense of attraction. You can look at a girl, or even just a picture of a girl for 5 seconds and be attracted to her. That's why pornography is such a huge industry for guys, unfortunately because they really are attracted to girls for their looks.

Now i do agree with luthien, having a good personality is what lasts in the long run. However (and i'm not trying to offend anyone here), a guy will go out with a brainless blonde immediately, with no thought if he had the chance. The relationship may last only 2 or 3 dates though, because there's no chemistry. However, if a guy thought a girl was ugly, there is no chance whatsoever he will go out with her, even if her personality is amazing. in that case, you become really great friends with her.

That's why when girls break up with guys after short term relationships and say "I want to be friends still", it almost never happens, because the guys most likely dated them for their looks, and they don't even have the compatibility to even be friends.

And mary, it's natrual for guys to look at girls bodies. It's a flaw we have, but we just do it. Don't think they're creepy for it. Chances are, if he thinks you have a nice body, and he's checking you out, he's not planning to rape you in a dark alley. If anything, he's thinking he'd like to go out with you (being that looks is the main basis of attraction for guys) and pursue a relationship with you, and get to know you better to see if you have compatibility for him.

what does it mean if a girl constantly text messages you, calls you on the phone, and comments you on myspace if she says that she doesn't like you?

um...i'm not a girl, but i'm gonna say she's freaking in love with you.

haha now im thinking back to all my good guy friends, like, does he think im ugly?? wtf?!
thanks man

Hm. Well somebody liking my physical assets is hardly an issue... I guess I gave you the idea that I'm afraid of men [or, *gasp* pretty]? What I'm REALLY afraid of it having to beat up on somebody because he won't take the freaking reins. First impressions, ya know. I have to live off of personality, it's the only way I've got.
Besides, even if somebody were checking me out, I'm too nearsighted to notice.


Fangirl.

no, i didn't mean it like that, sorry. The other alternatives of course is that either he didn't think he had a chance with you, you didn't like him for more than a friend, or a bazillion of other reasons. I was speaking in terms of attraction. There are lots of my girl friends that i think are hot, but i wouldn't consider going out with them because they're out of my league, and i would get laughed at.

And that's another thing. Guys are scared to death of rejection. Because if they're flat out told no by a girl, it does so many things. It gets you paranoid-questioning yourself. It embarasses you. It hurts your pride like no other. That's why we absolutely HATE when girls toy with us, because we can get the wrong idea and be forced to take a rejection like that.

holy crap jason. You couldnt have said that any better.

I have a few girls who are friends like that.



again holy crap. you hit that one right on the head. Thats why guys want girls to ask us out most of the time. The consequences of rejection for a guy are much worse most of the time for a guy then they are for a girl.

^Yeah, my mom warned me about the male ego and its fragility but she was serious.

seriously. getting rejected is horrible for a guy. it goes way beyond just disappointment that the girl doesnt like him.

depends on personality actually...

because you're supposed to be brave..so prove it